Actually we made a same way but I satarted animation 4 years ago. So yeah, I see same troubles in my works.
Your animation (motion) turn much better but your art style seems a bit complicated and clour palet not so great as coud be.
So I think you shall think about style and colours. It will make sence.
I've been interested in animation for longer than I can remember. I'm mostly self taught, and seem to be improving with everything I release. I hope to one day further my skills. I love making cartoons.
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Yeah, I've definitely been looking to better my color choices. I understand color theory a little more now, so maybe I should revisit some of the colors for FMTS. For FMTS specifically though, I don't think there will be much changed for the art style, 'cause it's pretty much exactly how I want it to look. I could definitely use some improvements for other things though!
I'm curious what seems so complicated about the style though, it seems pretty simple to me lol
That was a pretty nice history lesson of your art. As to your decision, I think you can combine frame-by-frame, and work with tweens in the same project. Also, it's not really piracy when Adobe hands out activation keys. It's good to hear from ya, dood.
Yeah, most people are telling me tweens + fbf should look fine, hopefully I can pull it off. I've just been so apprehensive to go back to tweens since FMTS started out with it and it didn't look very good then lol
And yeah, they are giving out keys for the older versions now huh? Wish it was like that back when I started, heh.
And yeah, I don't say much on here. Been busy with stuff, but I still post in the help forum every now and then when someone's looking for a cartoon I can find. It's good to hear from you again too, it's certainly been a while ;3
This was really really longer than I thought it'd be! XD So much backstory... but it was interesting to read, nevertheless. Interesting to know all the phases you've gone through. Sorry about your dad. Can't imagine what that's really like.
As for your ambition: I'd vote tweens. Better sacrifice on quality and make something than keep working on (what seems like, judging by how long things have taken thus far and how much you really want to put out) an impossible dream. If you have the resources I'd go for outsourcing too. Maybe outsource all backgrounds, and background animation, if so? Doing so much solo seems somewhat unrealistic, though I'm impressed by your passion! Even though you realize there's no more to it, even if the whole world might not be able to see it... you still want to do it. It's like you've found your purpose in life.
All that said I'm a huge FBF fan so everything FBF would be awesome, but just doesn't seem possible. Occasional bonus stuff with FBF? Could be cool.
Whatever you choose Good Luck with this. From the start I was thinking it'd be about abandoning the project... good to hear that wasn't it. No matter the times between each ep I'll stay tuned. :)
Yeah, I write way too much sometimes lol, at least it was interesting to read.
Honestly, I don't think I could handle going full tweens, I find tweening really boring to do, so I'd have to sneak some fbf in there somwhere, and from the looks of it, most people seem to want me to mix tweens and frame by frame, so that seems like what will most likely happen. Keep in mind, this is only for the full episodes of FMTS, I'll still gladly spend a month making a frame by frame 1 minute short lol.
Hopefully one day I'll have the resources to outsource a lot of work, not only because it'll mean i can get things done faster, but I can also give more artists jobs and we can make something cool. Gotta support each other, you know? At the moment I can't afford to outsource anything, though some people are willing to work for free, I feel bad about doing that, but I'm not opposed to it. And yeah, I definitely think I've found my purpose in life, 'cause animating is all I wanna do ;3
I have thought about laying FMTS to rest a few times, but every time I think about it, I always come to the conclusion that I've just put so much work into it already that it would be stupid for me not to finish it. At the very least, I'll finish the first season, and then we'll see what happens from there.
Yeah no worries, good read, I just kept getting surprised I wasn't anywhere near the end already. XD
Sounds like the solution's just about figured out. :) Well tweens and FBF seems like a good compromise if it's doable! And good to hear there's pure FBF coming too!
That'd be awesome. Awesome to hear people are willing to help out for free too. I'd love to join in a ton of stuff like this, but unfortunately just no time for everything. Definitively agree! That air of helping out, teaming up, collaborating, assisting with that one specific thing you know how to do... there's a lot of that going on here and it's part of what I love about this place. A real sense of community. Also Patreon, though if everyone donates to each other hmm, someone's gotta bring in some fresh $$$ too. Noticed you have a page there btw. Such positive goals! XD
Sounds good!
Yeah, I'd imagine everything I make for the rest of the year will be purely fbf, though maybe I'll throw some tween stuff in there to experiment. Gonna hopefully be finishing off a short I've been working on for way too long in the next few weeks, so at the very least, there's that to look forward to in the near future!
Yeah, the collaborative aspect of Newgrounds is the best part of Newgrounds, I think. Seems like there haven't been a lot of classic collaborations in the collab forum though, it's all just re-animate things now. The DBZ collab was a nice throwback to the official newgrounds collabs, but it was a bit of a bummer that it was invite only. I've got way too much on my plate anyways though, so maybe I shouldn't be trying to get into a bunch of collabs lol. If you ever feel the itch to collab on something though, let me know. Me and Chris could always do another Flash Library too lol
And yeah, patreon's a great thing, if you have an audience. I guess my audience isn't big enough to get any donators, but one person did say they would donate if they could so that's something at least! Also, yeah, my goal descriptions can get a bit self-deprecating, though that's pretty much part of my brand at this point. That, and dick jokes ;3
Looking forward to it! :)
Yeaaah those Flash Libraries, jumped aboard on those on their final phase it seems. :) That'd be cool some time. Also pretty busy right now, but you never know what the future holds... didn't know the DBZ Collab was invite-based btw... that sucks. I've been stumbling upon a lot of collabs lately though, but seems a lot from closed groups (well groups that handle their business outside the Collab forum), like FlowDownStream. Their stuff's pretty interesting. Some really MASSIVE reanimate stuff too.
Hehe, good to have a brand to market! Yeah I'd like to support a ton of people there, but budget's unfortunately too limited... gotta prioratize a select few...
Oh, yeah, a lot of communication for collabs seems to happen on discord now. I'll miss the good old days of just posting on the forum, but it's probably for the best. Still, it does make it a bit more exclusive. For a while I was so desperate to join a collab that I was checking the collab forum every day but it was always just people advertising themselves for work. Then I stopped checking and I lost hope and apparently in that short period of time I missed the sketch collab! Odd how that works out some times, heh.
I can understand why the DBZ collab was invite only at least, it being an official newgrounds collab, you wanna make sure you're only getting the highest quality and stuff from prominent site members. I would've figured I'm prominent enough to get in, but I didn't even get a response when I applied so that was a shame.
And yeah, FlowDownStream is cool. I've talked with a few of the guys involved with that before, so maybe I should hit 'em up and get involved, that'd be interesting. Maybe I shouldn't though, since I've already got so much to do, but eh, would be a nice distraction.
And yeah, there's so many people I wanna support on patreon, but I barely have enough money to keep myself fed, so it's definitely gonna be a while before I'm able to do that lol.
Ah yeah, joined my first Discord collab group just this month, it does make things easier... but at the same time I wonder if Discord will be around as long as NG. Or the groups. Shame if all that stuff just disappears, while via the Collab forum there'd be something to look back on, for viewers too it's a bit like a behind the scenes glimpse into the workings of, even if all important's stuff's reserved for PMs anyway. Nooo man. XD Have you joined in any of those? There's one each year though right? Hope you get on the next, or the one after, or a later one!
Yeah that's true, though agreed, you should've been there! Spots like that would be an awesome opportunity to really push your skills too. But I guess they got all the people they needed and more there. Turned out massive.
Distractions are nice indeed. :) Yupp, probably best not too, but would be fun to see you there too...
For sure, it's how it has to be. Persona progress always a main priority. :) Feels like as soon as you start supporting one other person you're not being fair to a bunch of others too... btw, speaking of, for that reason I'd really prefer to use something like Flattr instead, where you have a monthly budget that's distributed evenly to everyone you support. As fair a share as it can possibly be! Even if it'd mean a lot less per creator, the popular ones would get shares from a lot more people, so it'd probably work out well in the long run anyway. And nobody would feel left out, or have a bad conscience if they're leaving someone out.
Yeah, that's the cool things about forums, as long as the sites are still up, you can look back on all the old threads and see everything that went on.
I joined the sketch collab in 2014, and I still had an unused idea left over from then, so when I saw it was happening this year, I thought it would be great to join, but then I realized all the slots were already filled! I've been put on the waiting list though, so if anyone drops out I should get a spot! If not, I'll have to keep a sharp eye out for the next one, ha!
Once I get my schedule figured out and finally finish a few long overdue projects, I'm sure I'll be able to start looking for more collabs to join, or maybe even host, who knows. I have been feeling that itch, so if I gotta start a collab myself, I might just do that ;3
Oh yeah, I think I remember hearing about Flattr, the thing about having a budget that's evenly distributed to all the people you support sounds familiar, and definitely a nice option. It makes it easier to support everyone at least, so you don't have to do the math.
For sure. :)
Ah you have been in them at least! Next year'd be the 5th anniversary for that unused idea at least, if not this one. ;) So it's a limited set of spaces too, nice, didn't realize they had so much interest.
Looking forward to whatever happens then. :D Sounds good.
For sure. Easy and fair, just not as profitable for the select few you'd have to choose otherwise.
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I think you should work more on your art style. It has been improving with time but you need to work more on it before you focus on larger tasks like frogman.
I hope to see more from FrogMan and your other works in the future, but you need to hone your craft first.
I was't able to vote, but if I had a twitter I would voted for B, with a close second for C.
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